Regarding Entrance Exams

So I've been thinking about how our entrance exams evaluate newcomers, and I've concluded that the "Competitiveness" field must be removed from the exam. It does nothing to help the evaluation of a duelist, and in should not be included.

There are a few reasons for this. First, for those of you who may not have noticed, this field consistently interferes with the "Creativity" field. Since, as I have learned, the only decks deserving of full credit for "Competitiveness" are top tier metagame decks, any deck that could be considered creative (and therefore not used by literally everyone) would inevitably get a poor mark in this field. This makes achieving a full score of 175 points literally impossible. This should be very difficult to achieve, but not impossible.

Secondly, having a field, of which the purpose is essentially to judge whether the applicant is using a meta deck, on the exam only serves to reward people who use top tier decks. We should be discouraging people from using these sorts of decks, rather than encouraging it. To put it simply, we're basically giving 20 points to anyone who can google "Mermails deck profile."

In conclusion, there is no sense in maintaining a "Competitiveness" field. It must be removed.

i see yor point but you shouldnt discrourage someone from using good decks thats just stupid as anything let people use what they want and if its top tier say okay, playing top tier doesnt make you better or worse at the game it makes you smarter in a sense you know what you have to play to win, ND YOU KNOW HOW TO SIDE FOR IT. if anything we should encourage people to use what they want, no-one is gunna learn if they cannot play tier 1, tier 1 decks are the best decks no matter what anyone can say, if you learn to play the decks you will do alot better then someone who plays rogue as shit decks.

BarcodePez wrote:i see yor point but you shouldnt discrourage someone from using good decks thats just stupid as anything let people use what they want and if its top tier say okay, playing top tier doesnt make you better or worse at the game it makes you smarter in a sense you know what you have to play to win, ND YOU KNOW HOW TO SIDE FOR IT. if anything we should encourage people to use what they want, no-one is gunna learn if they cannot play tier 1, tier 1 decks are the best decks no matter what anyone can say, if you learn to play the decks you will do alot better then someone who plays rogue as shit decks.

Eh, the fact is - while I do not hate the meta at all, and I do believe Meta Decks take skill to play - the category "Competitiveness" goes along with nothing about your skills as a duelist.

If your deck is "competitive" it shows us how well you build your decks, and inevitably shows us your skills as a duelist when you're using this deck that you have built. I know that the Competitive field does work because near enough every other academy, including academies in the top 5 rank, use it. Sooo... I say we keep it.

Judgment Dragon wrote:If your deck is "competitive" it shows us how well you build your decks, and inevitably shows us your skills as a duelist when you're using this deck that you have built. I know that the Competitive field does work because near enough every other academy, including academies in the top 5 rank, use it. Sooo... I say we keep it.

Except we don't actually judge "competitive" that way.

Originally, I believed it was scored as you just described, based on build alone. But when I gave someone a 20 in that field for using a really good Fire Kings deck, Azaux demanded I have my tester status revoked, and explained to me that it is based on metagame standards alone. Therefore, it must be removed.

Now I have to agree with pez on this one. Meta can be great thing to improve your duelling skills. Furthermore just because a deck is competitive doesn't mean it is not creative. I have met several creative decks that are not only competitive but are creative. For example, I ran into a deck which was combination of cloudian and watt. Now the cloudians provided a LOT of defence for the person and he was eating away at my LP with the watt cards. He also used cards like Waboku and Threating roar to stop me giving him damage. So this deck was creative and competitive.

Meta is something all good yugioh players need to be aware of. If you cannot use meta then you will never be a top class duelist. Besides there is something called a 'side' deck which helps against decks so yea that is what I feel on the metagame

The Life Less One wrote:Now I have to agree with pez on this one. Meta can be great thing to improve your duelling skills. Furthermore just because a deck is competitive doesn't mean it is not creative. I have met several creative decks that are not only competitive but are creative. For example, I ran into a deck which was combination of cloudian and watt. Now the cloudians provided a LOT of defence for the person and he was eating away at my LP with the watt cards. He also used cards like Waboku and Threating roar to stop me giving him damage. So this deck was creative and competitive.

Meta is something all good yugioh players need to be aware of. If you cannot use meta then you will never be a top class duelist. Besides there is something called a 'side' deck which helps against decks so yea that is what I feel on the metagame

According to what I was told by Azaux, a deck such as the example you have provided would receive a low score in competitiveness, because said deck is not listed in the top tiers.

I'm just going by what I've been told. If you suggest we change the criteria for that field, that would work, however.

i see well azaux may only see as top tier decks as competitive but that is not always the case. Take an anti-meta deck for example such as MDR-TENKEN. Now this deck is considered the anti-meta king. It summons beast king barbaros then with skill drain it makes their attack into 3000.

I see where your coming from. Competitive decks aren't always meta ._. azaux was wrong. But if people use meta they will , most of the times, receive a low creativity score.